Vaccine Mandates and Personal Freedom – TSMP #65

Matt and Jay discuss vaccine mandates, personal freedom and why Covid-19 politics are an excellent opportunity for real men to show their strength.

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Vaccine Mandates

Matt’s perspective:

  • Very pro Vaccine, usually doesn’t get flu shot
  • Got Covid shot in March 2021

Jay’s perspective: 

  • Rarely go to the doctor
  • Never had a flu shot as an adult (maybe as a kid?)
  • Got vaccine in April 2021
  • Planning to get booster in the next few weeks

Current state of Covid disease as of Late October 2021

  • 725K deaths
  • 45 Million Cases
  • 218 Million received at least 1 dose of vaccine (66% of Americans)
  • Ages 0-14 is 18% of population and not approved for vaccine

Other “Facts” About Covid

  • The problem with facts about the vaccine is that for many people “facts” are based on the media source that you believe.

Biden OSHA Vaccine Mandate Is En Route

  • On Sept. 9, President Joe Biden announced that OSHA would issue an ETS (Emergency Temporary Standards) requiring covered businesses to mandate that their workers be vaccinated against the coronavirus or undergo weekly testing. 
  • Covered employers will also have to give workers paid time off to get vaccinated or recover from any side effects of getting vaccinated. 
  • Employers that don’t comply with the vaccine mandate or paid-time-off requirement may face fines of up to $14,000 per violation. 
  • The rule is expected to impact more than 80 million workers
  • As of this recording (Oct 24) the ETS has not been implemented and there has been no statements from the White House about when the mandate will be enforced
  • Multiple legal challenges already en route
  • Federal employees and armed service members are already mandated to have the vaccine or undergo regular testing

Group Freedom and Personal Responsibility

  • Personal freedom vs public good?
    • What about Mask Mandates?
    • Matt’s lesson for his kids: When you make choices you reap rewards or consequences depending on decision and outcome.
  • Why is personal freedom so important?
    • Australia limiting freedom – is this a good choice for the community or is this a dangerous decision that they will regret later?
    • Travel distance is significantly restricted due to Covid
  • Once you abdicate freedom to government, they don’t want to give it back
    • Remember that giving away your rights in order to achieve safety has rarely been a good decision historically.
  • Superior Men respect other people’s freedoms
    • Even if you don’t agree with someone, that doesn’t mean you have the right to tell them what to do

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